Talk:Hannah K's page/@comment-27035002-20151002100017

I have come to agree with where you have placed 'feuds between nobles'. Although I placed it in my second category, I can see how it could be perceived as being a key part of the outbreak of war, as each member had their own opinions that were easily influenced by the royal court and what was taking place within it. I also agree with the other, Henry's recovery. This is because I think the recovery provided a sense of urgency that pushed the nobles in the court to make a move before the King could regain power. I cannot say that I agree with your second category choices in the aspect of Henry's illness. This is primarily because I think his illness was by that point in time, more of a fact of the matter, and was generally accepted as the primary reason why this was all to happen, as his lack of control over his nobility meant that they were not always kept in check, and sometimes overstepped their bounds and got away with it because he was not able as a king to control their actions. This can be supported by the various events that nobles started to get away with suffering no reprimand for. I also think that the King's fundamental failures also don't necessarily push the war itself. I believe that the war itself was created from opportunity by the poor ruling of the King. This means that it wasn't an event that drove the war forward, but it was also more of a chain-started than a trigger, which is why I believe it should have been placed in your third section. Continuing the topic of your third section, I also think that public opinion holds more weight than granted in the summary presented. I think it is important to remember that the public were the majority, and that most of the fighters actually involved would have been peasants. Swaying public opinion is also the tipping point for creating a force large enough to win. I think from this as well that the mutual fear in 1455 between the two sides is worth more credit. I think this because the mutual hatred but more important strategic fear of the power of the other side drove each side to want to make a move so they were not pushed to go on the defence were a war to happen. However, I do agree with your opinions on the enmity between York and Somerset, which has made me reconsider my rankings. This is because the distaste between the two drove their own personal goals, which I believe does not push the war to happen, but does indeed allow it to be born of the situation.